but i do think the debt ceiling debate ahead of us in may and beyond is a place where we can put the marker down for a balanced budget amendment. martha: laid out that way doesn't sound liked you guys will have a whole lot to do. sounds like a lot more paralysis that is a thing frustrating to so many americans on both sides of the aisle. perhaps, you know, republicans need to articulate, you know, more clearly to the american people what your vision is for spending cuts. i, i know you probably feel you tried to do but is there something done on both side to prove to the american people that you're working and you're trying to present something that could build some kind of a bridge to get something accomplished before 2014? we're constantly in an election cycle it feels? >> it seems like that in the house where we're up for election every two years. building a bridge on spending when you have a president that says we do not have a spending problem. then he advocates for a series of programs and says it is not going to increase our deficit by one dime. i don't know anybody that took t